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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everybody wants credit for their work and efforts in some capacity. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we've been moving forward with this project behind the scenes. We made a choice to break the HOF up into 3 different categories for matches.

Matches that do not exist on tape.
Matches that exist on tape whose main qualification is importance/drawing/historical influence.
Matches that exist on tape whose main qualification is in ring artistic quality.

We assume the ballot will change as some point going forward so if we're still doing this 5 years from now, who's to say what the breakdown will look like. We're going this direction from the start mostly because this is the start. We didn't want to have a 100 match ballot.

We decided to make a Artistic Quality or Workrate or what have you, because PWO is primarily a community that focuses on match quality instead of history. So we wanted to acknowledge that while at the same time understanding that having something like Kobashi/Kikuchi vs Kroffat/Furnas 5/92 AJPW nominated alongside Hogan vs Andre WM III would look really bizarre. You can't have a Pro Wrestling Matches HOF without Hogan vs Andre. But given the footage watching tendencies of Pro Wrestling Only, it would be weird not to acknowledge the artistic quality aspect of wrestling fandom.

Something like that.

Anyway, what I really wanted more was feedback on match selections. Is there anything we're really obviously missing? Is there anything that stands out as not belonging? We have a 12/31/92 cut off for matches. (Note we didn't include repeat matches so Hogan vs Andre Main Event or the other Flair vs Steamboat 1989 matches didn't make the ballot but will probably make it next year when/if their counterparts get voted in).

Any help would be much appreciated.

Here's the ballot we've come up with so far:

Category A (matches that their main argument is importance that exist on tape)
1. Rikidozan vs Lou Thesz 10/06/57
2. Buddy Rogers vs Pat O’Connor 06/30/61
3. Rikidozan vs The Destroyer 05/24/63 (I think this exists on tape, I know the december one does)
4. Antonio Inoki vs Karl Gotch 3/6/72 NJPW
5. Giant Baba vs The Destroyer 12/19/72 AJPW
6. Ric Flair vs Harley Race Starrcade 11/24/83 JCP
7. Hogan & Mr T vs Roddy Piper & Paul Orndorff WrestleMania I 3/31/85 WWF
8. Chigusa Nagayo vs Dump Matsumoto (Hair vs Hair) 8/28/85 AJW
9. Dr Wagner vs El Solitario (Mask vs Mask) 12/1/85 EMLL
10. Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant WrestleMania III 03/27/1987 WWF
11. Akira Maeda vs Nobuhiko Takada 11/11/88 UWF
12. Jumbo Tsuruta vs Mitsuharu Misawa 06/08/90 AJPW
13. Cien Caras vs Rayo de Jalisco Jr (Mask vs Mask) 09/21/90 EMLL
14. Masa Chono vs Keiji Muto G1 Climax Final 8/11/91 NJPW
15. Atsushi Onita vs Tarzan Goto (No Rope Explosive Barbed Wire Death Match) 9/23/91 FMW

Category B (Matches based on in ring artistic quality):
1. Billy Catanzaro vs Gilbert Cesca French Catch 60s
2. Jumbo Tsuruta vs Terry Funk 6/11/76
3. Andre the Giant vs Stan Hansen (9/23/81) NJPW
4. Sangre Chicana vs MS-1 (Hair vs Hair 9/23/83) EMLL
5. 5 on 5 Gauntlet (4/19/84) NJPW
6. El Satanico vs Gran Cochise 9/14/84 EMLL
7. Magnum TA vs Tully Blanchard (Steel Cage I Quit Match Starrcade 11/28/85) JCP
8. Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee (Loser Leaves Town 12/30/85) Memphis
9. Stan Hansen vs Carlos Colon (Texas Bull Rope Match 1/6/87) WWC
10. Ricky Steamboat vs Randy Savage (WrestleMania III 3/29/87) WWF
11. Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat (2/3 Falls Clash of the Champions VI 4/2/89) WCW
12. Jumbo Tsuruta vs Genichiro Tenryu (6/5/89) AJPW
13. El Satanico vs El Dandy (Hair vs Hair 12/14/90) EMLL
14. Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas (5/25/92) AJPW
15. Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada vs Dynamite Kansai & Mayumi Ozaki (2/3 Falls DreamRush 11/26/92) AJW

Category C (matches that we do not have on tape - I know Londos/Shikat exists partially on tape, but we're considering it for this category since we have less than half of the match)
1. Frank Gotch vs George Hackenschmidt 04/03/1908 NYC
2. Jim Londos vs Dick Shikat 06/06/1930
3. Jim Londos vs Ed Lewis 09/20/1934
4. La Maravilla Enmascarada vs Frank Gou 09/21/34
5. Danno O’Mahoney vs Dick Shikat 03/21/1936
6. Lou Thesz vs Baron Michele Leonoe 5/21/52
7. El Santo vs Black Shadow (Mask vs Mask) 11/07/1952
8. El Santo vs Blue Demon 09/27/1953
9. Mildred Burke vs June Byers 08/25/54 Atlanta, GA
10. Lou Thesz vs Buddy Rogers 1/24/63 Toronto
11. Bruno Sammartino vs Buddy Rogers 05/17/63 (still need to check if on tape)
12. Giant Baba vs Dick the Bruiser 11/24/65 (Still need to check if its on tape)
13. El Santo vs Perro Aguayo (Mask vs Hair) 10/03/75
14. Los Misionarios de la Muerte vs El Santo, Huracan Ramirez & Blue Demon 11/03/80
15. Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks 6/18/81 Wembly
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap triple post!

I can't edit that second one out either because this one was a reply and you can't edit post that have been replied to.

When I pressed submit I got this weird message:
"Could not connect to smtp host : 0 : php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known


Line : 112
File : smtp.php"

So I kept trying. I was in the middle of emailing John about it (Hi John, hope you're doing well bud!) but then thought "Before I email John, I wonder if it actually posted." and sure enough it did. 3 times.

Hope you enjoyed this word salad. :)
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