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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering if Snoke is going to end up being wants left of Grand Moff Tarkin after the Death Star blew up.--Yohe
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snoke has enough juice to turn a young jedi in training. He's far more powerful than Tarkin.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarkin was 2nd in command to the Emperor. We didn't see much of him....he may have had powers we never saw. If they decide to go in that direction, then they would just make up stuff to fit. They need some idea for Snoke & it's funny how much time they spent on Tarkin, and most people haven't thought much about him since 1977. He wasn't afraid of Vader in any way & they hung out together like equals. Their both CG creations. Just wondering.---Yohe
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't have powers that we don't see. He's the Emperor's military right hand aimed at the troublesome Outer Rim, while Vader is the Emperor's right hand in destroying the Jedi throughout the entire Empire.

There's a new canon novel devoted to Tarkin that came out in 2014 in the lead up to TFA.

He's not going to be Snoke.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your computer is so smart.--Yohe
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Star Wars Episode IX will now be released May 2019 instead of Christmas.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/star-wars-episode-ix-moves-to-may-2019-1794636919

Specifically, Memorial Day weekend.

Get ready for a new Memorial Day weekend box office record, folks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-film-loses-directors-1015419

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/han-solo-directors-exit-was-movie-a-good-idea-a-star-wars-spinoff-1015430

Not sure if this is a bad thing. The directors have a track record of success, but with some goofy / silly projects. I was a little surprised they were picked in the first place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a series that can't make a mistake. Better to pass on it, that to screw up. A young Hans Solo movie sounds easy, but isn't. No light sabers or jedi's. I don't want a origin of Solo. His charm in the 1st movie was that he was young & street smart....which worked well against Luke being a know nothing kid from the sticks. They really need a great script before even thinking about doing a movie.

Seems like there is a light saber fight between Luke & Solo's son in the next film, and it they are going with that...it will be the end of Luke...leaving the girl for the 3rd film.

The gun fights are the worst....if they are going to carry the series forward, they need to come up with an idea that allows for non-jedi's to use light sabers. You can't have a sword fight without a least two people.

After the 9th actual Star Wars film (which would really be 10), they should lay low for a few years. Or go way back to the time with there were jedi knights were in their prime and all over the place. Way before the 4th film. Show the beginning of the order, both dark & good, and cheated new characters. ---Yohe
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Howard is the new director of the Han Solo movie (Star Wars prequel or sequel or requill), according to the New York Times. Shooting restarts next month.

I posted a link to the report but it was so long that it stretched this thread wider than Ultra Panavision. Try www.nytimes.com and look on the right-most column for a one paragraph summary. Click on that and it will open the article.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now they have fired the director of Star War #9. That movie tops off everything & is very important. I say go get fucking Steve Spielberg to finish it up. He's helped Lucas on the others, he should finish it off. He know how to do these movies & is the closest thing to a sure bet.---Yohe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Comeback has its takeaways from the latest trailer for The Last Jedi.

http://thecomeback.com/pop-culture/7-takeaways-from-star-wars-last-jedi-trailer.html
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writers at io9 revisit The Force Awakens and discuss what they liked and didn't like.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/io9-roundtable-revisiting-the-force-awakens-on-the-eve-1821254740
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I shared this piece about Empire Strikes Back in the spoilers thread in response to how Last Jedi has been criticized by many. Here it is -- but a heads up because there are a couple of Last Jedi spoilers via the link.

http://www.acriticalhit.com/fans-react-empire-strikes-back-1980/

So in the interest of not spoiling Last Jedi, I'll pull out the criticisms of ESB discussed in the piece, which refer to letters and reviews in sci-fi magazines released at the time ESB was released.

"Vader can't possibly be Luke's father." -- That's mostly attributable to kids who watched (I know I was initially in denial) but a few adults didn't want to believe it either, believe it or not. That's because some people just can't accept that a "good" person can have an evil father in movie lore, so therefore, Vader must be lying.

If we're being honest, "Vader is Luke's father" was a gutsy play because it gave the hero a bigger problem to deal with than just facing The Bad Guy. He now had to deal with the fact that The Bad Guy was his father. And plenty of movie goers want to believe the hero is from a long line of heroes, or at least from a long line of "good people," because how can a hero be born to The Bad Guy?

"Too many unanswered questions." -- People were wondering who Yoda referred to when he said "there is another" and thinking Han Solo was actually dead, even though it was said that he was in hibernation. Chalk the latter up to people not paying attention to details, but the former is an example of how there are always going to be unanswered questions. In some cases, it's fine to want answers in a later film (and that's how they get to watch the later films) but in others, you might be thinking too much.

"Leia should dump Han for Luke." -- It's not just the later revelation that Luke and Leia were siblings that made this a problem, but that the chemistry between Leia and Han was evident from the first film, whereas Luke was clearly the third wheel who was bewildered by their banter. Still, there were small hints in New Hope that this was going to be a love triangle, but it didn't turn out that way. In other words, with those seeing things set up in one film, expecting one payoff in the next but getting a different payoff, is nothing new.

The Gerrold criticism -- One is more of a case of the "hard science fiction" fanboys than anything else -- that everything in science fiction needs to be science based or it doesn't work.

But there's another criticism he raised about the cross-cutting between Luke visiting with Yoda on Dagobah and the predicaments Han and Luke went through. That cross-cutting technique, at the time, was a bit unusual for most movies at the time. As the piece notes, George Lucas used that technique in American Graffiti, then he and his fellow creative team employed it in Star Wars and ESB.

Today, that technique gets used a lot and most people take it for granted it will be.

The larger point of the piece, though, is that things that we think of as "universally loved" today weren't exactly "universally loved" back then. I suspect some people have never gotten over their criticisms of ESB and still don't like the film.

But that's not unusual. Every film is going to have its detractors and there's no rule that says certain films have to be liked by everyone who watches them.
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