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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this week is the first taped Dynamite from Jericho's cruise. And the first title change as Omega/Page win the tag titles. I'm usually not a fan of makeshift tag teams winning tag titles. Especially since RAW had a makeshift tag team win their tag titles. But this was a fine match, and this continues the Page-Omega storyline. As shown by that backstage segment with the Bucks.


Oh man the Britt Baker heel turn. Calling Tony Schiavone a shitty barista. That was hilarious for all the wrong reasons. JR really wanted to cut to break after this.

Well they did a nice throwback to the Spring Break Nitros with someobody being thrown in a pool. In this case MJF, by the Bucks. I was surprised though Sammy wasn't dunked in the pool. I can't hate on this company for a while after they did one of the best WCW bits.

Main event was fine. So now at Revolution its Jericho vs Moxley for the title. I wouldn't be surprised if Jericho gets a cheap win to further their feud.

So aside from Heel Britt Baker, another strong AEW episode. And hopefully we get more outdoors Dynamite.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually turned the page on Heel Britt Baker. She's been great the past couple of weeks. Shooting on JR for botching wrestlers' names. Now that the Nightmare Collective is a thing of the past, thankfully, she could be the top female AEW heel.

Also Adam Page has been great the past couple of weeks. He's developing his character in his feud with the Elite. He's more over now, and more developed now, than he was at the time of his AEW title match at All Out.

The past few weeks have been great. Moxley is still the StoneCold A Babyface. I would put him next to Cody in terms of the top babyface in AEW. Most of the roster seems to have stable roles on the show now.

I would like to see more of the Lucha bros actually. They did get the pin in this week's 8-man match. But they haven't done much as of late. And with George Kittle of the 49ers using Penta's gesture whenever he makes a 1st down, I thought they should've capitalized on that.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the Cody getting the lashings segment from MJF. This was ripped-off/aped/inspired by Tommy Dreamer getting caned by the Sandman back in '94. That angle along with the brilliantly executed Sandman blinding and fake retirement is what got me into ECW. And it's a study in brilliant booking combined with knowing when to take a risk at the right time. While the MJF/Cody segment wasn't bad, it still shows that AEW has a lot of issues with their booking.

The Dreamer/Sandman angle had a great purpose...Dreamer was a young wrestler with potential that Heyman wanted to build into a star. The problem was that he was a 'pretty boy' and that went against the Philly crowd's nature to not boo for him. Dreamer started to get some support from the fans, but this angle was done to top it off and make Dreamer a full fledged babyface than the fans were behind.

Heyman's best attribute when his booking is 'on' is his ability to think one step ahead of even the smartest fans. At the time there was an industry epidemic of stipulations never being fulfilled. Promotions would find a way to book themselves out of fulfilling stipulations with Double DQ's or just illogically not fulfill the stipulation. At the time as a fan, I suspected that there would be some sort of way that ECW would book its way out of fulfilling the stipulation.

And then everything I thought was looking to come true. They had every run-in possible and Dreamer loses despite awful refereeing. Tod Gordon comes to ringside and says the refereeing was awful and that Dreamer doesn't have to take the 10 canings because he got screwed over. That's when I thought they had booked themselves out of fulfilling the stipulation. At the very least, I though they would re-do the match, have Dreamer win and then refuse to give Sandman the canings.

But to my surprise, Dreamer says that unlike other promotions, he will take the canings. Then I though that they would be badly worked canings.

Nope.

They were 100% full bore canings. And they were absolutely brutal to watch.

Normally, I would be against doing something like this that is hazardous to a wrestler's health. But, it was...in essence...'safe.' And by booking this segment the way they did, it was worth it for Dreamer to take the canings in order to become one of the promotions main babyfaces and somebody that the crowd would get behind.

What really worked here is the cane itself makes for incredible audio. Every crack of the cane makes the viewers wince. At first, Dreamer's back just appears red and you start to wonder a bit if the cane was worked. But by the 8th caning he now has blood streaks over his back and it's difficult to look at his back.

Meanwhile, Woman is taunting Dreamer on the mic. Telling him that if he just bows to her feet she'll put an end to the canings. Dreamer refuses and crack...another caning that makes you wince even harder.

If you watched the TV show version, it was even better. Heyman did his normal masterful job of editing and they clipped just the right amount of the incident while playing 'Let Love Rule' by Lenny Kravitz, the version with the extra long instrumental. I was never a big Kravitz fan or even of the song, but as usual it was a song very fitting for the angle.

Woman tells Dreamer, again, if he just bows at her feet, he won't get caned anymore.

Dreamer says she should get on her knees and kiss his ass. And he returns to the position.

Crack.

Another blood curdling caning.

Eventually this turns into Dreamer shouting into the mic 'Thank you sir, may I have another!'

Crack.

Another caning.

On the TV show version, they play to Dreamer getting in the Sandman's face and Joey Styles saying tot he effect 'Tommy Dreamer lets the world know that he will never...ever...bow down to the Sandman and Woman.'

This is where I felt that Joey's announcing was greatly underappreciated. He was so great at saying specific lines in the show that you could just remember, verbatim, for months on end. Hell, it's been over 25 years and I still remember that line, almost verbatim.

The other great part to this is that Sandman's reaction was just enough that he was 'shook.' From the way Dreamer tells it in shoot interviews, it did really scare Sandman a bit.

Then as Dreamer turns his back to get out of the ring, the Sandman canes him over the head.

This is how you book something like this.

And this is something worth hurting (but not injuring) yourself over. Something important that can draw money, not a spot at an indy show of the Jersey Turnpike.


With the Cody/MJF segment, I couldn't really understand the need to do this angle. Cody is over. It's not going to get MJF over. It could help get Cody even more over and potentially put him in the bona fide superstar category, but I think that's really iffy.

I also would have had Wardlow deliver the whippings. What the segment missed was somebody like Woman taunting Cody. And thus, I would have had Wardlow give the whippings while MJF is on the mic taunting Cody.

There's also the issue with the belt. It doesn't make the same audio as a cane, but bringing in a cane would not make sense. If they really wanted to get some impact on this angle, they needed something that provided a better audio.

I do think there should have been some fear of aping the ECW completely. Today with YouTube and social media they can simply play the ECW angle and it loses its effectiveness.

But, I think the key here is that they needed to do something else. Maybe have Cody make a scene and get intensely into both Warldow's and MJF's faces ala Deniro in the Russian roulette scene in The Deer Hunter.

That may be too difficult to pull off as I don't think there was a better actor than Deniro when it came to acting without saying a single word. Deniro could just make the smallest movement and/or avert his eyes just enough to make you feel what he was thinking.

I love that scene in The Deer Hunter because the leader of the Vietnamese group just gets a death stare and shows a world of fear in just a star that lasts maybe a second. That fear that if Deniro gets him by himself that he'll snap him like a twig. Kind of a Walt Kowalski 'you ever notice you come across somebody once in a while that you shouldn't have fucked with?' type of moment.

But, we really get neither of that. And then Brandi, who has been playing a heel character that terrorizes other women's wrestlers and cuts their hair off comes out.

I'm guessing that they thought that would make the moment feel 'more real' that Brandi would break character to support her husband. But the reality is that it just confused the audience even more and made Brandi's storyline look even more ridiculous.

Again, it wasn't bad, but it missed the mark. The Dreamer/Sandman angle did not and other than being inspired by the Dreamer/Sandman angle...it's ridiculous to even compare the two.




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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the big angle from tonight's very strong Dynamite was Jericho hiring Jeff Cobb as a sort of bounty hunter for a match next week. Cobb is currently part of the ROH roster, and is also a NJPW regular as well.

The announcers billed him as "the hottest free agent available" Which means this could also be a one-shot deal as well, while they bide time for Brodie Lee to arrive in AEW.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another strong show. Maybe their best dynamite yet.

Opening battle Royale was one of the best battle royales in a long time. Right from the start where everyone was on the outside.

Lucha Bros/Omega+Page was great too.

Main event was also good. Wardlow impressed me. Very strong debut for someone who never had a high-profile match like this before. Nice senton by him too. Cody wins with an unbelievable moonsault off the top of the cage.
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