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QUANTUM OF SOLACE (spoilers???)

 
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Steve Yohe



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: QUANTUM OF SOLACE (spoilers???) Reply with quote

QUANTUM OF SOLACE is a major disappointment. Mostly just action filmed badly. All handheld quick cuts, that are very hard to follow & not fun. Nothing like the last film. I like Craig as Bond but if his first turn had been this film...he may have this only try. The talking scenes are good but their are very few of them. Opens with a car race...followed by a foot race...followed by a boat race. Late theirs a plane chase. All very messy. Craig's acting is good. With other Bonds, M bitches at the agent because he liked to fool around and party...even with bad guys...well bad girls. Craig gets bitched at because he kills everyone he comes in contact with. He is a killing machine & everything else is secondary. No jokes either...at least that I can remember. Too bad because the first movie set this up to make more money than any Bond movie. (Like with the 2 Batman movies.) It may still do that but it's because everyone loved the other movie.---Yohe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: "I never left." Reply with quote

I when back and watched QUANTUM OF SOLACE after that review and liked it better, but I still thought there was too many chases early in the film & I didn't like the camera work and bad CG.

For some reason they felt they needed that long car chase to start the film. I think it's too much that early in the film. Over the top stuff & looks CG. I would have started the film with M interrogating Mr White, not known who he actually was. I would have spent more time on that & then had White pull the big surprise & come close to killing her. It should have been one of the major scenes in the series history. Then do the foot race with Bond going against another 00 agent. I wouldn't have used hand held camera shots. If they had to have a car chase, I would have used just 1/3 of what they filmed.

But the second viewing changed my opinion & I liked it a lot better.

When the DVD came out, they put all the special stuff on the Blue Ray & nothing on the normal DVD. So I decided to wait for a special edition which never came. Tonight I found it for a few bucks used & got it.

I loved it. The action was easier to follow the third time & on TV. Craig is really great and all the ties with M, Mathis & Leiter working really well. The emotional stuff between Bond and Camille really worked. Craig could project emotion without being emotional. The ending with Craid catching up with his ex's old boyfriend was really super cool. "I don't think the dead care about vengeance." "I never left!" Sorry it's cool.

So now I love the movie.

The fight with Greene always seemed like a huge mismatch and a disappointment after all the old Bond fights with wrestlers like Togo, but what made the fight was Greene using FO and the place exploding. The real fight was between Camille and the big general. Good fight.

Later with fire all over Bond & Camille, he is going to shoot her to save her from being burned again and the wall opens up and he sees a way out. It works. Good dramatic stuff. I do worry about the bar girl that almost got raped but now seems to have burned up in the fire.

Jeffrey Wright was a great Felix Leiter. A show in himself. The beat Felix in the history of the series. Big mistake if they every change actors again. Beats the hell out of all the old assholes that played the part in the past.

The relationship between M and Bond ends up working too.

So a lot of the action I don't like but what they put in between makes it a film I'll watch over and over.---Steve Yohe
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, the latest Bond flick (currently just known as Bond 23) has been indefinitely shelved due to MGM's financial woes and their inability to find a buyer for the film. Production has been on hold since April, but reports are that the film has been axed completely might be premature.

I hope this isn't the end, because, like Yohe I really dug Daniel Craig as Bond and the new direction of the franchise. Rumors were the script for Bond 23 was "shocking", and Dench and Wright were to return as M and Leiter. The plot was allegedly loosely based on Fleming's "007 in New York" short story (which, I think, is the only Fleming Bond tale I haven't read, so I need to seek that one out) and Q and Moneypenny were supposed to return to the franchise.

The only reason why Casino Royale was even made was because Columbia bought MGM and financed 75% of Royale and MGM terminated the distribution deal after Royale's success (figuring they could keep themselves and the franchise going on their own), Columbia financed Quantum of Solace as part of the separation agreement, now MGM is stuck with insufficient backing for the film. Idiots.

Sam Mendes (who directed "American Beauty" and is signed on for Bond 23) and Craig are supposedly still waiting for a possible resolution, but since MGM owns the Bond franchise, it can't proceed without MGM. MGM is likely to go bankrupt soon, hopefully whoever ends up with Bond won't fuck it up and reboot it with all new characters as I was so jazzed up about the new Bond.

Of course MGM's production on Peter Jackson's produced two-film fucking Hobbit is continuing, though director Guillermo Del Toro left the project six weeks ago after working two years on pre-production. Ian McKellen, 71, may not live long enough to reprise his role as Gandalf (which would be the only thing I'd likely enjoy about the film, though he's said his recent work in plays is just "marking time" until he plays Gandalf again), also I don't even think they've cast Bilbo Baggins, so I don't know how the hell they'll film that one either with no director and no Bilbo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MGM's collapse when it has a sellable franchise like Bond is just stupid. Of course the other sudios are waiting for it to die so they can buy the franchise's rights without eating the debt. Let's not forget the annoying Broccoli Family is involved too.

Don't get me started on TFJ's two movies... I have nightmares about having to go see them in the future. :)

John
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Craig gets bitched at because he kills everyone he comes in contact with.


Well what good is a license to kill if one doesn't use it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike: note Yohe re-review of the movie a year later. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So two movies later, Mr White ends up being Bond's father-in-law? Wasn't that the finish? You would think Bond would lose his security clearance?

I still watch these Craig Bond movies. The others I don't care about. I didn't give a star rating for this film. It has major pacing problems, but now I would go ***1/2.

Watched 20 minutes of a Roger Moore Bond movie last week on TV. Just terrible. Nothing today could be that bad.

You wonder if some day they'll do a James Bond TV show. HBO could probably do a Ok job on it. Do a reboot & have six shows a year. Guess it would kill the movies.---Yohe
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